Lawyer Roberta Kaplan said the former president Donald Trump threw papers on a table and stormed off during a deposition at Mar-a-Lago after learning that her legal team had agreed to provide her with lunch.
Kaplan, who has represented clients in high-profile cases against Trump, including E. Jean Carroll, said in an episode of the “George Conway Explains It All (to Sarah Longwell)” podcast recorded Thursday that she denied the request. former president to work during a lunch break because he thought the deposition was “a waste of time.”
“And then you could kind of see the wheels turning in his brain. You could almost see it,” Kaplan told Republican strategist Sarah Longwell and conservative lawyer George Conway, a longtime Trump critic. “And he said, ‘Well, you’re here at Mar-a-Lago. What do you think you’ll do for lunch? Where are you going to lunch?’
Kaplan said she told him that his attorneys had “graciously offered to provide” lunch for his team — a common civil practice between opposing legal teams.
“At that point, there was a huge pile of documents, exhibits, in front of him, and he took the pile and just threw it on the table. And he stormed out of the room,” Kaplan said, adding that Trump specifically yelled at his lawyer Alina Habba for buying them lunch.
“He really yelled at Alina for that. He was so angry with Alina,” she said.
Kaplan continued: “He came back and he said, ‘Well, how do you like lunch?’ And I said, “Well, sir, I had a banana.” You know, I can never really eat when I’m taking a testimony. And he said, “Well, I told you” – it was quite lovely. He said, “I told you, I told them to make you really bad sandwiches, but they can’t help it here.” We have the best sandwiches.
Kaplan was deposing Trump at Mar-Lago as part of a lawsuit alleging the former president was involved in a fraudulent marketing company. A federal judge dismissed the suit last month.
In another anecdote, Kaplan detailed how the deposition ended as she was about to leave, saying Trump told her, “See you next Tuesday” — a phrase that is often used as a derogatory euphemism to regard for women.
“We walk into the room and I say, ‘I’m done asking questions,’ and immediately I hear from the other side, ‘Unofficially.’ Unofficially. Unofficially. So they had to plan it. And he looks at me across the table and he says, ‘See you next Tuesday,'” she said.
Kaplan said she was initially confused because their next meeting was scheduled for a Wednesday. “You could tell it was like it was still kind of a joke, like teenagers would make it up. But again, I wasn’t in on the joke,” she said.
“I wasn’t in on the joke, so I had no idea. Then we get in the car and my colleagues say to me, “Robbie, do you know what that means? And I’m like, “No, what are you talking about?” » They tell me and I’m like, oh my God, thank God I didn’t know because if I had known, I definitely would have gotten angry. There’s no doubt I would have gotten angry,” Kaplan said.
CNN has contacted representatives for Trump and Habba.
Kaplan’s comments come a week after her victory in Carroll defamation lawsuit against Trump. A jury awarded Carroll — a former magazine columnist who claimed Trump raped her in a department store in the mid-1990s, then defamed her when he denied his claim — $83.3 million . Trump is expected to appeal the verdict.
Kaplan also described last week’s verdict as a career-defining moment. When asked which felt better – winning the defamation case against Trump or his successful challenge to the Defense of Marriage Act in 2013 that led to the Supreme Court’s final decision paving the way for marriage homosexual – Kaplan highlighted his recent victory.
“I have dedicated my entire life to the principle that we have the rule of law and a justice system that works,” Kaplan said. “And that’s what makes us a constitutional democracy that, at least until recently, was admired around the world. And it was starting, I mean, it’s at a time that doesn’t seem to be true.
But, she added: “This case has confirmed that at least for now, we still have all of this. »
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